APPENDIX V

                           WHEN EXPERTS DISAGREE
                        WHICH ONES SHALL WE BELIEVE?



              It surely falls within human ability to find a way
          by which the scientific community, in full public view,
          can calmly examine together the evidence, the
          assumptions, and the conclusions which form the basis
          for assessments of radiation risks.

              When the public is asked to accept an officially
          approved "acceptable" dose of radiation, the public is
          also entitled to know what risks may go with it or with
          any fraction of it. This approved dose is now used in
          determining emission standards for nuclear power plants,
          color television sets, and numerous other facilities and
          activities. Further it is used in deciding what the
          hazards may be from medical x-rays. If there is
          disagreement as to the acceptability of the dose, the
          public is entitled to know why.

              In the hope of clarifying and perhaps resolving some
          disagreement regarding radiation risk-levels, I offer
          the following proposal. While details remain to be
          worked out, I see advantages to seeking public comment
          at this time. I welcome all suggestions.

                       Mike Gravel, March 1, 1971
                          U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C. 20510


          Editor's note to the reader:

              An idea like this does not "get off the ground"
          unless people support it. If you do, let your Senators,
          Representatives, and the Environmental Protection Agency
          hear from you.

          Senate address:                    House of Representatives:
          Washington, D.C.
          20510                              Washington, D.C. 20515

          Environmental Protection Agency:
          1129 Twentieth St., N.W.
          Washington, D.C. 20460

          Attention:

              The Honorable William D. Ruckelshaus, Administrator

               Proposed: A Public Radiation Debate

                 I. The Proposal.

                II. The Need.

          I.  THE PROPOSAL

              The word "debate" must not be interpreted literally.
          Proposed is an inquiry on the question:

              WHAT MAY BE THE BIOLOGICAL RISK-LEVELS PER MILLION
          PEOPLE RECEIVING A WHOLE-BODY DOSE OF NUCLEAR RADIATION
          AT THE RATE OF 170 millirems PER YEAR?

              In other words, what may be the health consequences
          of the presently permissible dose of radiation? Both
          somatic and genetic consequences would be considered, as
          would be the question of age during the exposure-period
          (in utero, childhood, adulthood).

              The format would be approximately this:

              As a precondition to the entire procedure, the
          scientists who are the principal participants or
          advocates in the radiation dispute would have to agree
          unanimously upon five scientists to be the jury. We
          believe this can be done.

              Included in the scientific jury, it is hoped, would
          be at least one biologist, geneticist, statistician,
          public health specialist. Excluded from the scientific
          jury would be anyone who has publicly declared a
          position in this dispute, anyone who has received
          financial support from the Atomic Energy Commission,
          anyone who has been a member of professional societies
          related to radiation, such as the National Committee on
          Radiation Protection (NCRP), American Nuclear Society
          (ANS), American College of Radiologists, Health Physics
          Society, etc.

              During the inquiry, all advocates and all jurors
          would be present, and the proceedings would be open to
          the public, and fully recorded by a stenographer for
          prompt transcription.

              Three sessions would be held, each approximately a
          month apart.

              The first session: The advocates and the jurors
          would discuss which information, data, experiments, and
          papers they agree to evaluate -- which animal data,
          which human data. The jurors would hear and participate
          in the arguments, and if there were disagreement, the
          jurors would make the final decision.

              The second session: The same procedure would be used
          to decide what assumptions would be applied to the data
          -- assumptions concerning public health protection,
          extrapolation, linearity, thresholds,
          dose-fractionation, dose-accumulation, cancer latency,
          age sensitivity, etc. Perhaps more than one
          constellation of assumptions would be decided upon.
          Again, the decision of the jurors would prevail in case
          of disagreement.

              The third session: Each advocate would present his
          risk-estimates (with levels-of-confidence specified)
          based on applying the agreed assumptions to the agreed
          data.

              In each session, questions and cross-examination
          mutually between the advocates and the jurors would
          proceed freely with minimal formality.

              The motto would be Linus Pauling's:

               "Science is the search for truth -- it is not a
               game in which one tries to beat his opponent, to do
               harm to others."[1]

          After the discussions, the jurors would openly
          deliberate and publicly announce their estimates of the
          BIOLOGICAL RISK-LEVELS FROM THE PRESENTLY PERMISSIBLE
          RADIATION DOSE (170 millirems per year whole-body
          exposure). Degrees of uncertainty and areas of ignorance
          would be described, and dissent (if any) among the
          jurors would be summarized.


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          II.  THE NEED

              In January of 1970, Dr. John W. Gofman made the
          following statement to the Chairman of the Joint
          Committee on Atomic Energy:

              "We urge you to nominate a jury of eminent persons,
          physicists, chemists, biologists, physicians, Nobel
          Prize winners or National Academy of Sciences members,
          or American Association for the Advancement of Science
          members, who have no atomic energy ax to grind. We urge
          you to serve as chairman of a debate. Dr. Tamplin and I
          will debate each and every facet of the evidence
          concerning the serious hazard of Federal Radiation
          Council guidelines against the entire Atomic Energy
          Commission staff plus anyone they can get from their
          19-odd laboratories, singly, serially, or in any
          combination."[2]

              A month later, Drs. Gofman and Tamplin wrote to
          Senator Edmund S. Muskie:

              "Dr. Tamplin and I hereby challenge Lauriston Taylor
          and the entire National Committee on Radiation
          Protection to a complete debate, including every minute
          facet of the evidence, before a jury of eminent peers
          who have no atomic energy ax to grind, preferably in
          public view."[3]

              Yet, unfortunately, more than a year has passed
          without such a debate.

              The question raised by Drs. Gofman and Tamplin is
          simple, and it is of supreme importance to current
          decisions affecting our health and survival in the
          future:

              HOW BIG A RISK (in cancer and genetically-related
          diseases) MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESENTLY
          PERMISSIBLE RADIATION DOSE (or "guidelines")?

              The public has not received risk-estimates from the
          institutions officially responsible for protecting the
          public from radiation hazards: the Federal Radiation
          Council (now under the Environmental Protection Agency),
          the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC), the National
          Committee on Radiation Protection (NCRP), and the
          National Academy of Sciences (NAS) Advisory
          Committee.[4]

              At the NCRP press conference on January 26, 1971,
          AEC spokesman, Dr. Victor Bond (who is also a member of
          the NCRP) declined to express casualty figures. He
          instead stated: "All I can say is that we have
          considered exactly the same data as Drs. Gofman and
          Tamplin, and we come to different conclusions."

              Why do equally qualified experts reach different
          conclusions from the same data? When experts disagree,
          which ones shall we believe?

              These questions arise not only with radiation
          effects, but with cigarette smoking, drugs, pesticides,
          organic farming, the supersonic airplane, the Alaskan
          pipeline, the damming of rivers, the anti-ballistic
          missile, the storage of radioactive wastes, the
          engineering of nuclear power plants, and many other
          questions on which public policies have to be made and
          whose economic stakes are enormous. Much is at stake in
          addition to public health and business interests; the
          lofty ideals of science and democracy are also involved.

              There are at least two reasons why Congressional
          hearings fail to cope successfully with such
          controversies: the hearing format does not require the
          experts to confront each other or to clarify the reasons
          for their disagreement, and members of Congress do not
          have the scientific training to ask all the important
          questions.

              Expert committees are also often handicapped by
          deficiencies. They operate behind closed doors which
          exclude the public as well as the rest of the scientific
          community. Where conflicts of interest may be present,
          their findings lose credibility.[5]

              Such hearings and reviews resolve little; the
          radiation controversy will simply rage on, unless
          findings can be validated in an open inquiry with all
          sides participating. Without such a forum, the experts
          will continue to roam the country independently making
          solo addresses, accusations, and testimonies which are
          not subject to critical scrutiny or even to comparison.

              When scientific experts reach contradictory
          conclusions, there are reasons for the disagreement.
          These reasons need to be identified, and that usually
          requires:

            a. Identification of the prime data which each is
               considering and not considering.

            b. Identification of the statistical and experimental
               methods used by each.

            c. Identification of the unspoken scientific premises,
               public health principles, and personal values
               underlying each expert's position.

              A jury of qualified scientists could determine this
          information as it relates to the radiation controversy
          by questioning the scientists who disagree, and by
          listening as the disagreeing scientists question each
          other.

              There is no reason why this examination process
          should be private or secret. The scientists are not the
          least shy about advocating their positions publicly;
          they can hardly claim shyness about submitting their
          positions publicly to the critical scrutiny of
          scientific peers. There is no reason, either, for the
          deliberations of the scientific jurors to be secret; the
          decency of all participants is taken for granted.




                                 FOOTNOTES

            1. No More War, by Linus Pauling, New York, Dodd, Mead
               & Co, 1958; page 209.

            2. "Environmental Effects of Producing Electric
               Power," hearings before the Joint Committee on
               Atomic Energy, January and February, 1970 Part 2
               (Volume 1), page 1390. (See also: Chapter 7)

            3. Published in "Underground Uses of Nuclear Energy,"
               hearings before the Senate Public Works
               Subcommittee on Air and Water Pollution, Nov.
               18-20, 1969, Part 1, page 290.

            4. When the presently permissible dose was set in 1957
               at 170 millirems per year, the following risks were
               apparently considered acceptable:

               Cancer: According to Dr. William Mills (presently
               director of the Division of Biological Effects,
               HEW's Bureau of Radiological Health), the NCRP then
               estimated that 5 percent-10 percent of all cancers
               are caused by natural background radiation (100
               millirems per year). This is an estimate also
               quoted by Dr. Gofman in a Nevada speech, 1965. The
               NRCP has set the permissible dose of man-made
               background radiation (which does not count medical
               radiation) at 170 millirems average for the
               population.

               Present U.S. cancer mortality is about 320,000
               deaths per year.

               Genetic: the NAS Committee on the Biological
               Effects of Atomic Radiation (the BEAR Committee)
               endorsed the permissible dose, while acknowledging
               that the price might be a quarter of a million
               extra "defective children" if the parents of one
               generation were exposed to it every year (see
               Report #3 of the Federal Radiation Council, May
               1962. Appendix B). Now, some say that estimate was
               much too high, while others say it was a great
               underestimate.

            5. In January, 1970, HEW Secretary Robert Finch
               directed a thorough review to be made of the
               permissible radiation dose. Two studies were
               undertaken -- one by the NCRP and one by the NAS.

               NCRP membership: Total 64.

                  * About 10 are radiologists.
                  * About 14 were also members of the BEAR
                    Committee.
                  * About 30 receive employment or research grants
                    from the AEC, the Dept of Defense,
                    Westinghouse, or General Electric (major
                    manufacturers of nuclear reactors).

               Naturally, there is some overlap in the three
               categories.

               NAS Radiation Committee membership: Total 20.
               Twelve of the twenty are notable as follows:

                  * 7 are either employed by the AEC or have been
                    receiving research money from the AEC.
                  * 8 are concurrently members of the NCRP.
                  * 10 were also members of the BEAR Committee.